Interview with Pam Jenoff
A Conversation with Pam Jenoff, Author of A Hidden Affair
Q: A pivotal aspect of the plot is the use of wine during World War II. How did you discover this fascinating fact? What sort of historical research did you do for the novel?
A: I knew that I wanted the book to have a World War II back story, and some of the possible angles I considered, like Nazi gold, seemed to have been covered a lot previously in other books. I found an article on wine counterfeiting which got me started thinking about using wine generally, and then I found a fascinating book, Wine and War: The French, the Nazis, and the Battle for France's Greatest Treasure, which provided lots of historical background which I used as a starting point.
Q: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings trilogy feature in the storyline of A Hidden Affair. Are you a fan of Tolkien’s novels? What are some of your favorite books and authors?
A: I adore Tolkien but I wasn’t introduced to his work until college, when someone read me the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy aloud, and I took a course on the writings of Tolkien and C.S. Lewis. Some of my favorite authors presently include Tracy Chevalier, Anita Shreve, Barbara Kingsolver, Laura Lipman, and Kate Atkinson.
Q: “Despite the advances that women have made in the profession, it’s still not as easy for a female diplomat to find a partner who is willing to forgo his own career to follow her around the world as it is for her male counterparts,” you write in the novel (pg 179). Having worked for the State Department, as did Jordan, what can you tell us about some of the other challenges that women diplomats face?
A: I think women diplomats have made great strides, but they still face cultural barriers when working in countries where women are perhaps not as readily accepted in the professional world or where women’s roles in society may be more limited. But I didn’t experience these challenges firsthand – my most vexing experience as a female diplomat was once being asked out on a date, only to discover that the person who invited me really wanted to ask for a visa to America!
Q:Jordan talks about a game she played as a child, Spend A Day With Anyone. Which person would you choose to spend the day with and what would you discuss?
A: I would collectively choose my grandparents because three of the four passed away when I was very young and I didn’t get to have the time with them that I would have liked. (Seeing my son spend a ton of time with his grandparents is one of the great joys of my life.)
Q: You were a graduate student atCambridge University , a place that is significant to Jordan . What personal connections, if any, do you have to the settings in A Hidden Affair, such as Monaco , Vienna , and the Greek Islands ?
A: Though I’ve never lived in the placesJordan visits in A Hidden Affair, I love writing about some of the places I’ve been. For example, I really did visit Monaco while Eurorailing, as Jordan describes, and so her reaction to the place was based partially on my own impressions. I frequently passed through Vienna while living in Eastern Europe and traveling by train to various cities. And I once made an unplanned visit to Trieste while on a solo excursion to Slovenia .
Q: A point of contention between Jordan and Aaron is their difference of opinion about the actions of the Poles during World War II. Did living and working inPoland during your tenure with the State Department inspire you to include this in the book?
A: Yes, definitely. During my years inPoland , I worked extensively on Holocaust related issues and Polish Jewish relations and those experiences, as well as living among Poles for over two years, greatly challenged many of the assumptions I’d had about Poland during World War II. I came back from Poland with a much more positive, nuanced view of the people and history and a sense that nothing was as black and white as I previously perceived. But when speaking to groups in the Untied States, I frequently come across people with more negative opinions (perhaps understandable in light of their personal history or experiences) like Aaron has in the book and they often have trouble understanding my more Jordan-like point of view.
Q: How do you successfully balance your two careers as a novelist and a lawyer? What time management secrets can you share?
A: I decided to get serious about writing a novel following the events ofSeptember 11, 2001 and the epiphany that I didn’t necessarily have forever to make my dreams come true. It wasn’t the most ideal time to take on the challenge -- I had started working as an attorney just weeks prior and had a demanding job working sixty hour weeks as an associate at a large law firm, not to mention almost a hundred thousand dollars in student loans to repay. So I devised a plan whereby I would write every morning from 5-7 am . It wasn’t pretty. I was tired and overwhelmed and many days as I dragged myself to the computer I had no idea what I was going to say. But a year later, I had my manuscript.
I’ve used the early morning timeframe to write for many years since. I often say that I’m tired and grumpy, meaning I go to bed early and don’t go out nights much or take on other commitments that interfere with my writing time. I’m no longer at the firm, but I still have the day job teaching law school and growing family commitments, and I still fit in the writing in the hour or two in between. It isn’t always easy or pretty and there are certainly days when I fail, but I always come back to it and that’s what has kept me in this game. I would suggest to others: Figure out when you can carve out that hour or two of writing time a day, then protect it zealously. You must pay yourself first and schedule that time or life’s commitments will run over it.
Q: What do you most enjoy about writing romantic suspense novels? Have you ever considered writing legal thrillers, given that you’re a practicing lawyer?
A: The thing I like about romantic suspense is that there are two stories going on at once, the romantic relationship between the characters and the challenges they face as part of the suspense. Putting those two elements together in a way that works is tremendously challenging and rewarding.
I think it takes me a really long time to process the life experiences that contribute to my work. My experiences inEurope over a decade ago are still the driving force behind my novels. But my legal work, which has been more recent, might someday influence my novels (in fact, the main character in my next book, The Anniversary Clock, happens to be an attorney.)
Q: When you began writing A Hidden Affair, did you know how the story would end forJordan or did her path unfold during the writing process?
A: It unfurled as I wrote. I generally have some idea where I want the book to go, but I’m always surprised where it ultimately winds up and the twists and turns it takes along the way.
Q: What are you working on now? Will there be any future adventures forJordan ?
A: I’m wrapping up a novel called The Anniversary Clock. It’s the story of Charlotte, an attorney, who along with her ex-boyfriend’s brother Jack, gets pulled into defending an accused Nazi collaborator. The key to his guilt or innocence lies with an antique timepiece (we see the clock at various points throughout its history in twentieth centuryEurope ) and Charlotte and Jack race to find the clock while confronting their feelings for one another. But as for another adventure for Jordan , never say never - a British newspaper recently described A Hidden Affair as the second book in a trilogy and that really got me thinking…
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Q: A pivotal aspect of the plot is the use of wine during World War II. How did you discover this fascinating fact? What sort of historical research did you do for the novel?
A: I knew that I wanted the book to have a World War II back story, and some of the possible angles I considered, like Nazi gold, seemed to have been covered a lot previously in other books. I found an article on wine counterfeiting which got me started thinking about using wine generally, and then I found a fascinating book, Wine and War: The French, the Nazis, and the Battle for France's Greatest Treasure, which provided lots of historical background which I used as a starting point.
Q: The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings trilogy feature in the storyline of A Hidden Affair. Are you a fan of Tolkien’s novels? What are some of your favorite books and authors?
A: I adore Tolkien but I wasn’t introduced to his work until college, when someone read me the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy aloud, and I took a course on the writings of Tolkien and C.S. Lewis. Some of my favorite authors presently include Tracy Chevalier, Anita Shreve, Barbara Kingsolver, Laura Lipman, and Kate Atkinson.
Q: “Despite the advances that women have made in the profession, it’s still not as easy for a female diplomat to find a partner who is willing to forgo his own career to follow her around the world as it is for her male counterparts,” you write in the novel (pg 179). Having worked for the State Department, as did Jordan, what can you tell us about some of the other challenges that women diplomats face?
A: I think women diplomats have made great strides, but they still face cultural barriers when working in countries where women are perhaps not as readily accepted in the professional world or where women’s roles in society may be more limited. But I didn’t experience these challenges firsthand – my most vexing experience as a female diplomat was once being asked out on a date, only to discover that the person who invited me really wanted to ask for a visa to America!
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A: I would collectively choose my grandparents because three of the four passed away when I was very young and I didn’t get to have the time with them that I would have liked. (Seeing my son spend a ton of time with his grandparents is one of the great joys of my life.)
Q: You were a graduate student at
A: Though I’ve never lived in the places
Q: A point of contention between Jordan and Aaron is their difference of opinion about the actions of the Poles during World War II. Did living and working in
A: Yes, definitely. During my years in
Q: How do you successfully balance your two careers as a novelist and a lawyer? What time management secrets can you share?
A: I decided to get serious about writing a novel following the events of
I’ve used the early morning timeframe to write for many years since. I often say that I’m tired and grumpy, meaning I go to bed early and don’t go out nights much or take on other commitments that interfere with my writing time. I’m no longer at the firm, but I still have the day job teaching law school and growing family commitments, and I still fit in the writing in the hour or two in between. It isn’t always easy or pretty and there are certainly days when I fail, but I always come back to it and that’s what has kept me in this game. I would suggest to others: Figure out when you can carve out that hour or two of writing time a day, then protect it zealously. You must pay yourself first and schedule that time or life’s commitments will run over it.
Q: What do you most enjoy about writing romantic suspense novels? Have you ever considered writing legal thrillers, given that you’re a practicing lawyer?
A: The thing I like about romantic suspense is that there are two stories going on at once, the romantic relationship between the characters and the challenges they face as part of the suspense. Putting those two elements together in a way that works is tremendously challenging and rewarding.
I think it takes me a really long time to process the life experiences that contribute to my work. My experiences in
Q: When you began writing A Hidden Affair, did you know how the story would end for
A: It unfurled as I wrote. I generally have some idea where I want the book to go, but I’m always surprised where it ultimately winds up and the twists and turns it takes along the way.
Q: What are you working on now? Will there be any future adventures for
A: I’m wrapping up a novel called The Anniversary Clock. It’s the story of Charlotte, an attorney, who along with her ex-boyfriend’s brother Jack, gets pulled into defending an accused Nazi collaborator. The key to his guilt or innocence lies with an antique timepiece (we see the clock at various points throughout its history in twentieth century
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